Exact hand made reproductions of 1959 - 1964 Pre Cbs S guitars.

Reproduction vintage guitars exact in every detail.

Your perfect PRE CBS guitar made to measure

FINAL PRODUCTION RUN - 2017 - 2018

We will make approx 30 guitars which will be completed between January 2017 and June 2018.

The guitars will be made to order.

Pre CBS guitars look like vintage originals from the 1950´s and 1960´s in every detail and dimension inside and out.

We use the same materials, basic technology tooling and machines as were used in the 1950´s and 1960´s to make all our bodies and necks.

Our stock of alder and maple is over 20 years old.

The bodies are routed on a vintage overhead pinrouter that leaves the same characteristic cuts and traces in the cavities. The necks and bodies are made entirely by us.

Left handed models are also avaialble. 

PRICES
Price depends on model, colour and aging requirements - prices range from
4,000 - 4,800 Euros.




If you have a specific question after having read all of this website I would be happy to reply - but the details and photographs on the following pages should provide you with everything you want to know - especially if you know your vintage instruments inside and out. Emails such as "Please send me more information" will be ignored.


           Info@precbsguitars.com

A forgery is only a forgery if someone claims it is something it is not.


Many people claim that they "pay great attention to detail" - you should ask for evidence and make sure they can play the guitars they make.

Left handed models.
I am often asked for dark fingerboards. Freshly sanded boards go much darker as they oxidise, then polishing them makes them darker still - then once they have been played for a while they go even darker and smoother.
T body with template ready for pinrouter.

                                     
 info@precbsguitars.com

Pre CBS guitars look like vintage originals from the 1950´s and 1960´s in every detail and dimension inside and out.

We use the same materials, basic technology tooling and machines as were used in the 1950´s and 1960´s to make all our bodies and necks.

Our stock of alder and maple is over 20 years old.

The bodies are routed on a vintage overhead pinrouter that leaves the same characteristic cuts and traces in the cavities. The necks and bodies are made entirely by us.

Left handed models are also avaialble. 

PRICES
Price depends on model, colour and aging requirements - prices range from
4,000 - 4,800 Euros.



We will also make replacement necks or bodies - if you have the original neck or body - made to your exact specification to match the neck or body you have. Please note - we will not make a neck or body unless it IS destined to be assembled with a genuine original counterpart. Please call to discuss prices


I made my first guitar in 1978 - our finisher has been finishing and refinishing vintage guitars for over 40 years.  
 
It is not difficult to make guitars look correct outside (although not many manufacturers or luthiers do manage to get the details right) but if you want the guitar to look like an original the cavities inside the body also have to be accurate in terms of size and texture of cut, the truss rod and truss rod nut have to be the correct specification and size according to the year, the holes for cables have to be in the correct positions and of the correct diameter, the position of the truss rod nut hole, position of neck mounting screw holes and neck plate, the tooling and quality control marks have to be correct for the era, the way the body is painted inside the cavities - the list is long.

What is the point of an aged or "relic" finish if the guitar does not play,
feel and sound exactly how you want and look totally original and authentic when you remove the pickguard, the neck and the rest of the hardware ?

We make very few guitars and so are able to pay great attention to every detail, select the best pieces of wood and to a certain extent "tailor" each guitar to what the customer wants.
 
You can choose the colour, year, month, neck size and profile.
It will be completely "vintage correct" with accurate vintage pre cbs cavities, "clay dots" or pearloid dots depending on the year-month, contours, correct paint for era (cellulose, acrylic, Homoclad or Fullerplast sealer where appropriate - we discuss this with each customer - there are various
"original" combinations), celluloid nitrate pickguard, pat pend saddles - all the small details you need to see. You can have the guitar in any condition from new old stock "under the bed find" to a heavily used 50 year old guitar.

WOOD QUALITY
The quality of the wood for the neck and body is what makes the difference
in how it sounds and responds - particularly for the neck.
We have a stock of american red alder for 1956 onwards bodies that has
air dried for over 15 years, hard rock maple for over 25 years and some of the rosewood is over 50 years old. Mass production guitar manufacturers cannot offer that - there simply is not much old wood available anymore.

BODY WOOD TYPE
The wood used for sunburst bodies from 1954 -1956 was often Northern White Ash -  Fraxinus Americana - also called baseball bat ash - which can be quite dense and produce a heavy guitar body.

Swamp Ash or Punk Ash are not species - they are terms often used by guitar builders for lightweight low density ash that has grown in damp areas - these species are usually green ash (Fraxinus pennsylvanica) and black ash (Fraxinus nigra). The grain on original guitars that are White Ash looks totally different from "swamp ash" and it is noticeable on sunbursts and blondes. 

After that the bodies are mostly American Red Alder for sunbursts and solid colours and a few early 1960´s Blondes.

The neck to neck pocket fit will be perfect unless you want it to look sloppy - like many originals - the neck profile and dimensions will be made to fit your hand and technique - you can choose (within limits) the weight of the guitar and the sound - dark or bright - this usually depends on the density of the wood and therefore influences the weight of the guitar.

All the components on the guitar are made by us or specially for us to be perfect reproductions of original parts appropriate to the year of manufacture - plastic knobs, string guides, strap buttons, pickups, truss rods, truss rod nuts, bridges, screws, pickguard, jack cup, neck plate, tuner bushes - we do not use off the shelf commercial parts.


Many customers like to supply original components from vintage strats and teles and do not need our hardware.
 
Our bodies and necks display the same tolerances and variances as
original instruments - for example the way the body contours and neck profiles vary.

If you want to copy a particular guitar we can accurately duplicate the contours from reference photos.


PAINT COLOUR REFERENCES
There are photos of actual paint references on the last page.

A word about paint colours – the vintage “custom colours”.

My colours are as close as humanly possible to what would have come out of the spraygun in Fullerton in the 1950´s and 60´s - but everybody has their own personal expectation and interpretation of what the original colour would have been and would now be after so many years of UV and oxidisation.
With this in mind we always send a sample of the colour on a piece of alder with the same sealer and primer to the customer for approval and therefore
 the colour could be adjusted to your taste if required.

The other thing to consider is - the blues and greens seemed to vary from guitar to guitar in spite of the colour being given the same name - have a look at the original colour charts from DuPont from 1956 - and you can see that it is quite possible that some times they received a different blue or green because the reference number was almost the same - an easy mistake to make - maybe this explains why there are so many opinions about what is Sonic Blue, Daphne Blue and so on. Maybe they got a tin of 2293 Cascade Gray instead of 2295 Sonic Blue from time to time or actually used Cascade Gray paint but used the name Sonic Blue because it sounded better in the catalogue - most genuine Sonic Blues look more like Cascade Gray - which has no green in it - whereas the formula for DuPont Sonic Blue has a component called Blue Toned Green.    

 




Then the same colour from the other manufacturer, Ditzler, is also different.




Photos are totally unreliable when choosing colours - especially with blues and greens - look at the 2 versions of the same old photo below.

Daphne can look like Sea Foam - Sonic like Daphne and so on - as can be seen in the photos below.
 
The 4 photos of "blue" cavities are of the same guitar which is actually Sonic Blue before the clear topcoat had been applied !

With this in mind I always send my customers a sample of exactly the colour I intend to spray before I do so and will tweak the colour to match what you want if you feel you want to adjust it.


Many people claim that they "pay great attention to detail" - you should ask for evidence especially regarding the cavities hidden under the pickguard - on the following pages I try and demonstrate our attention to detail.

If you want to know whether the man who makes the guitars can play them - check out the youtube links on the last page titled MORE.

If there you have any questions - especially regarding international shipping costs - please do not hesitate to contact us and ask.

Email: info@precbsguitars.com

Is John playing a Daphne Blue or Sonic Blue guitar ? Yet another example of why you cannot rely on photographs
to determine colours - especially blues.
The gold paint for the knobs is bronze powder based based paint and therefore it oxidises to green - it is not green paint. 
 
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